Tuesday, March 30, 2021

Elite 8 Recap and Baylor v Houston

 I feel like I called this Michigan game.  The only person that can verify that is my wife, but I swear it’s true.  Here’s what I thought:  All three Elite 8 games have looked very similar.  The favorite builds a double digit in the first half.  They kind of mail it in during the second half.  Gonzaga is a really good team, so they never really let USC get close.  Baylor is maybe not as good as Gonzaga, so they let Arkansas get a little closer before pulling away.  Houston is maybe not even as good as Baylor, so they let Oregon State come all the way back before pulling away at the end.  There was no way all 4 games were going to go that way.  The basketball gods owed us a close game, and we got one.

Second, I said at the beginning of the pool before anyone even picked any games that the East was going to be the wacky bracket.  People picking made that apparent, as Michigan was the least picked #1 seed of all the #1 seeds.  People weren’t sure who exactly was going to come out of this region.  I hate to hard on this, but if you picked the “play-in winner” hoping it was MSU, you’d still be getting points from UCLA.  Note to self: always pick the play-in winner to win at least one game.

Third, conventional wisdom says that 3 #1 seeds and a #2 seed would comprise the Final 4.  That would be the chalkiest of all chalky Final 4’s.  It’s almost always 2 #1 seeds, a #2 or #3 and then someone else.  That’s exactly what we have this year.

That being said, I am tired of seeing this UCLA team, and I hope Gonzaga blows them out by 30-40 points.  I keep waiting for a team to figure out how to stop Johnny Juzang, since he seems to be about 75% of their offense, or at least have him miss a few contested long 2-point shots.  Still, they are still alive, so they have a shot at winning in all.  Congrats, UCLA fans.

So, it should come as no surprise that no one got all 4 of the final 4 teams.  That’s about typical.  I don’t think anyone got all 4 in 2019 either.  Only 12 people got as many as 3 right.  63 got 2 right, 84 got 1 right and 22 people got shut out.  It also means that only 14 entries are still alive for any payout.

I’m going to post a little different matrix this time.  I’m going to show just the people that are alive, instead of the full list of entries.  I also am going to show  a second matrix that shows what those people chose for the remaining 3 games.  Some of the odds may look a little weird, since there are really only 8 ways the pool can play out from here.  That’s because there is one scenario that can end in a tie for 2nd/3rd and another that can end in a tie for 4th.  If it looks like I’ll need it, I’ll reach out to the people in those games for a tiebreaker score.  Most people don’t include one with their picks, and most years, we don’t need one.  I hope we won’t need one this year either.

Here is the matrix for the remaining alive brackets:

Name

1st Place

2nd Place

3rd Place

4th Place

Matt M.

25.0000%

12.5000%

USC

12.5000%

Michelle L. #2

37.5000%

Arkansas

Arkansas

Arkansas

Paul Kr.

Sweet 16

25.0000%

12.5000%

USC

Scott H. #1

Michigan

Michigan

25.0000%

12.5000%

Brandon H. #2

Arkansas

25.0000%

12.5000%

USC

Mark A. #1

25.0000%

Michigan

Michigan

6.2500%

Howard S. #1

Flo. State

18.7500%

6.2500%

Michigan

Tomas L. #2

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

12.5000%

12.5000%

Elizabeth N. #1

12.5000%

12.5000%

Arkansas

USC

Howard S. #2

Alabama

Alabama

25.0000%

Michigan

Paul W.

Villanova

O. Roberts

Michigan

25.0000%

Klei R. #1

Alabama

Michigan

Michigan

18.7500%

Roth W.

Michigan

6.2500%

6.2500%

USC

Hutch H. #2

Sweet 16

Or. State

Oregon

12.5000%

 …and the picks for those entries:

Name

Game 61

Game 62

Game 63

Points For

Matt M.

Gonzaga

Baylor

Gonzaga

81

Michelle L. #2

Gonzaga

Houston

Houston

84

Paul Kr.

Gonzaga

Baylor

Gonzaga

80

Scott H. #1

Gonzaga

Baylor

Gonzaga

78

Brandon H. #2

Gonzaga

Houston

Houston

68

Mark A. #1

Gonzaga

Baylor

Baylor

75

Howard S. #1

Gonzaga

Baylor

Baylor

74

Tomas L. #2

Gonzaga

Baylor

Baylor

73

Elizabeth N. #1

Gonzaga

Houston

Gonzaga

71

Howard S. #2

Iowa

Houston

Houston

59

Paul W.

Iowa

Houston

Houston

57

Klei R. #1

Gonzaga

Baylor

Gonzaga

75

Roth W.

Michigan

Baylor

Baylor

74

Hutch H. #2

Gonzaga

Baylor

Baylor

70

 Only one person picked UCLA to make it to the Final 4, and he was eliminated after the Oral Roberts game, so no one will get any points for them if they win any more games.  Remember that games 61 & 62 are worth 16 points and Game 63 is worth 32.

 Here are the eliminations for the First National Semi-Final:

If Baylor wins:

Brandon H. #2 is eliminated from 2nd & 3rd place contention.

Elizabeth N. #1 is eliminated from 1st & 2nd place contention.

Howard S. #2 is eliminated from 3rd place contention.

Matt M. is eliminated from 2nd & 4th place contention.

Michelle L. #2 is eliminated from 1st place contention.

Paul Kr. is eliminated from 3rd place contention.

Paul W. is eliminated from 4th place contention.

Scott H. #1 is eliminated from 4th place contention.

 If Houston wins:

Howard S. #1 is eliminated from 2nd & 3rd place contention.

Hutch H. #2 is eliminated from 4th place contention.

Klei R. #1 is eliminated from 4th place contention.

Mark A. #1 is eliminated from 1st & 4th place contention.

Matt M. is eliminated from 1st place contention.

Paul Kr. is eliminated from 2nd place contention.

Roth W. is eliminated from 2nd & 3rd place contention.

Scott H. #1 is eliminated from 3rd place contention.

Tomas L. #2 is eliminated from 3rd & 4th place contention.

 Looks like Howard S. is in pretty good shape regardless of who wins this game.  That’s some decent picking.  Good luck to everyone!!!!

Michigan v UCLA

 If Michigan wins:

Brandon H. #2 is eliminated from 3rd place contention.

Elizabeth N. #1 is eliminated from 2nd place contention.

Howard S. #1 is eliminated from 2nd & 3rd place contention.

Howard S. #2 is eliminated from 3rd place contention.

Hutch H. #2 is eliminated from 4th place contention.

Klei R. #1 is eliminated from 4th place contention.

Mark A. #1 is eliminated from 1st place contention.

Matt M. is eliminated from 1st & 2nd place contention.

Paul Kr. is eliminated from 2nd & 3rd place contention.

Paul W. is eliminated from 4th place contention.

Roth W. is eliminated from 2nd & 3rd place contention.

Scott H. #1 is eliminated from 3rd & 4th place contention.

Tomas L. #2 is eliminated from 3rd & 4th place contention.

 If UCLA wins:

Ally H. is eliminated from 3rd & 4th place contention.

Brent E. #2 is eliminated from 1st & 2nd place contention.

Brent E. #4 is eliminated from 2nd place contention.

Colston W. is eliminated from 1st & 2nd place contention.

Dennis R. #2 is eliminated from 3rd & 4th place contention.

Howard S. #1 is eliminated from 4th place contention.

Howard S. #2 is eliminated from 4th place contention.

Irene H. #2 is eliminated from 4th place contention.

Keal B. is eliminated from 3rd & 4th place contention.

Klei R. #1 is eliminated from 2nd & 3rd place contention.

Mark A. #1 is eliminated from 2nd & 3rd place contention.

Paul W. is eliminated from 3rd place contention.

Peter J. #3 is eliminated from 3rd & 4th place contention.

Peter J. #4 is eliminated from 1st & 3rd place contention.

Roth W. is eliminated from 1st place contention.

Scott H. #1 is eliminated from 1st & 2nd place contention.

William G. #1 is eliminated from 2nd, 3rd & 4th place contention.

 …and the Matrix:

Name

Game 63

1st Place

2nd Place

3rd Place

4th Place

Brandon H. #2

Houston

Arkansas

25.0000%

6.2500%

USC

Michelle L. #2

Houston

31.2500%

Arkansas

Arkansas

Arkansas

Scott H. #1

Gonzaga

6.2500%

6.2500%

12.5000%

6.2500%

Matt M.

Gonzaga

12.5000%

6.2500%

USC

9.3750%

Howard S. #2

Houston

Alabama

Alabama

12.5000%

12.5000%

Mark A. #1

Baylor

12.5000%

3.1250%

3.1250%

6.2500%

Paul W.

Houston

Villanova

O. Roberts

12.5000%

12.5000%

Klei R. #1

Gonzaga

Alabama

6.2500%

6.2500%

9.3750%

Elizabeth N. #1

Gonzaga

12.5000%

6.2500%

Arkansas

USC

Howard S. #1

Baylor

Flo. State

9.3750%

3.1250%

6.2500%

Paul Kr.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

12.5000%

6.2500%

USC

Ally H.

Gonzaga

O. Roberts

Alabama

6.2500%

6.2500%

Brent E. #2

Michigan

6.2500%

6.2500%

USC

USC

Colston W.

Michigan

6.2500%

6.2500%

USC

USC

Peter J. #4

Baylor

6.2500%

Oregon

6.2500%

USC

Roth W.

Baylor

6.2500%

3.1250%

3.1250%

USC

Tomas L. #2

Baylor

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

6.2500%

6.2500%

William G. #1

Baylor

Sweet 16

3.1250%

3.1250%

3.1250%

Dennis R. #2

Michigan

O. Roberts

O. Roberts

4.1667%

4.1667%

Keal B.

Michigan

Alabama

Alabama

4.1667%

4.1667%

Peter J. #3

Michigan

Alabama

Alabama

4.1667%

4.1667%

Brent E. #4

Baylor

Syracuse

6.2500%

Creighton

Syracuse

Hutch H. #2

Baylor

Sweet 16

Or. State

Oregon

6.2500%

Irene H. #2

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

3.1250%

Adam E. #1

Oklahoma State

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Adam E. #2

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Addie H.

Ohio State

O. Roberts

O. Roberts

O. Roberts

Creighton

Alex I.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

O. Roberts

Alyssa B.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Villanova

Villanova

Alyssa N.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Amanda R.

Ohio State

Oregon

Oregon

Oregon

Oregon

Andrew D. #1

Baylor

Alabama

Alabama

Alabama

Alabama

Andrew D. #2

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Andy M.

Connecticut

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Ann K.

Illinois

Arkansas

USC

USC

Or. State

Avery S.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Becky H

Michigan

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Ben W.

Gonzaga

Or. State

Or. State

Oregon

Or. State

Brad R. #1

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Brad R. #2

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Syracuse

Syracuse

Syracuse

Brad R. #3

Ohio State

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Brad R. #4

Michigan

Sweet 16

Arkansas

Arkansas

Arkansas

Brandon B.

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

Alabama

Brandon H. #1

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Villanova

Villanova

Brent E. #1

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

Brent E. #3

Illinois

Sweet 16

Syracuse

Syracuse

Or. State

Bret K. #1

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Bret K. #2

Baylor

Flo. State

Flo. State

USC

USC

Brett G. #1

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

Brett G. #2

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Syracuse

Flo. State

Brett G. #3

Illinois

Alabama

Syracuse

Alabama

Alabama

Brett G. #4

Baylor

O. Roberts

Flo. State

Alabama

Oregon

Brett W.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

Brian K. #1

Alabama

Alabama

Alabama

Alabama

Alabama

Brian K. #2

Oklahoma State

Flo. State

Alabama

Alabama

Flo. State

Brian K. #3

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Syracuse

Syracuse

Brian K. #4

Florida State

Flo. State

Flo. State

Flo. State

Flo. State

Chad L.

Ohio State

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

Chris E.

Iowa

Sweet 16

Creighton

Flo. State

Flo. State

Chris T. #1

Gonzaga

Flo. State

Flo. State

Alabama

Flo. State

Chris T. #2

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Chrissy I.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Chun W. #1

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Syracuse

Chun W. #2

Gonzaga

Arkansas

Arkansas

Arkansas

Arkansas

Chun W. #3

Iowa

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Chun W. #4

Alabama

Sweet 16

Alabama

Alabama

Alabama

Cicely K.

Ohio State

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Cindy R.

Virginia

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Clifton H. #1

Michigan

Syracuse

Syracuse

Alabama

Alabama

Clifton H. #2

Gonzaga

Syracuse

Or. State

Or. State

Or. State

Craig G.

Baylor

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Daisy N. #1

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Daisy N. #10

Kansas

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Daisy N. #2

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Daisy N. #3

Baylor

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Daisy N. #4

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Daisy N. #5

West Virginia

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Daisy N. #6

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Daisy N. #7

Ohio State

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Daisy N. #8

Iowa

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Daisy N. #9

Texas

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Damien R. #1

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Damien R. #2

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Damien R. #3

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Villanova

Damien R. #4

Ohio State

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Dan C.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Villanova

Villanova

Villanova

Dan Dz.

Illinois

Or. State

Alabama

Alabama

Or. State

Daniel Du.

Oregon

Oregon

Oregon

Flo. State

Oregon

Daniel E.

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Dave M.

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Dennis R. #1

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Villanova

Villanova

Dianna A.

Arkansas

Arkansas

Arkansas

Arkansas

Arkansas

Drew R.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Dustin B.

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Dylan B.

Illinois

Sweet 16

Syracuse

Syracuse

Syracuse

Elizabeth N. #2

Illinois

Flo. State

Or. State

Or. State

Or. State

Elliot N.

Illinois

Sweet 16

Syracuse

Syracuse

Syracuse

Eric G. #1

Gonzaga

O. Roberts

O. Roberts

Flo. State

Alabama

Eric G. #2

Illinois

Sweet 16

Flo. State

Flo. State

Flo. State

Eric S.

Baylor

Sweet 16

Flo. State

Flo. State

Flo. State

Eric V.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Oregon

Oregon

Gary W.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Gigi I.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Harrell R. #1

Gonzaga

Flo. State

Flo. State

Flo. State

Flo. State

Harrell R. #2

Iowa

Loyola-Chi

O. Roberts

O. Roberts

Creighton

Harrell R. #3

Michigan

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Hutch H. #1

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

O. Roberts

Hutch H. #3

Kansas

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Irene H. #1

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

O. Roberts

Irene H. #3

Baylor

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Creighton

Irene H. #4

Texas

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Irene H. #5

Ohio State

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

Syracuse

Irene H. #6

Michigan

Syracuse

Arkansas

Arkansas

Arkansas

Jace D.

Florida

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

Syracuse

Flo. State

Jackson I.

Baylor

USC

USC

USC

USC

James P.

Illinois

Syracuse

Flo. State

Flo. State

Flo. State

Jared B.

Gonzaga

Flo. State

Flo. State

Flo. State

Flo. State

Jason S.

Gonzaga

Alabama

Or. State

Or. State

Or. State

Jaxon S.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Alabama

Alabama

Alabama

Jay H. #1

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Jay H. #2

Baylor

Alabama

Alabama

Alabama

Oregon

Jay H. #3

Kansas

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Jim D. #1

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

Jim D. #2

Gonzaga

Oregon

Oregon

Or. State

Or. State

Jim W.

Illinois

Alabama

Or. State

Or. State

Alabama

John M. #1

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

John M. #2

Connecticut

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

John M. #3

Florida State

Creighton

Flo. State

Flo. State

Flo. State

John M. #4

Georgetown

Villanova

Syracuse

Syracuse

Syracuse

JoJo D.

Oklahoma State

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Jonathan J.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

O. Roberts

Josh C.

Baylor

Sweet 16

Creighton

USC

Alabama

Juju Suki I.

Oklahoma State

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Justin M.

Gonzaga

Flo. State

Syracuse

Flo. State

Flo. State

Karen C.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Syracuse

Or. State

Or. State

Kirt R. #1

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Syracuse

Kirt R. #2

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

Syracuse

Klei R. - BO

Gonzaga

Or. State

Or. State

Or. State

Or. State

Klei R. - Seth D.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Klei R. - WaPo

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Klei R. #2

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Alabama

Flo. State

Klei R. #3 - Jay B.

Gonzaga

O. Roberts

Syracuse

Syracuse

Alabama

Marc R.

Gonzaga

Oregon

Oregon

Oregon

Oregon

Mark A. #2

Michigan

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Mason A. #1

Gonzaga

Flo. State

Flo. State

Flo. State

Flo. State

Mason A. #2

Illinois

Or. State

Oregon

Or. State

Or. State

Matt N.

Baylor

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Alabama

Or. State

Michael Wh.

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Michelle L. #1

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

O. Roberts

Michelle L. #3

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

O. Roberts

Mike McQ.

Texas

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Flo. State

Mike N.

Gonzaga

O. Roberts

Or. State

Or. State

Or. State

Mike S.

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Mike Wi.

Iowa

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Missy W.

Baylor

Sweet 16

Syracuse

Syracuse

Syracuse

Molly R.

Michigan

Oregon

Oregon

Oregon

Oregon

Nate R.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Nick I.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Nick V.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Noah N.

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Owen R.

UC Santa Barbara

O. Roberts

O. Roberts

O. Roberts

O. Roberts

Peter J. #1

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Syracuse

Alabama

Alabama

Peter J. #2

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

Syracuse

Peter J. #5

Oklahoma State

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Ray M. #1

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Ray M. #2

Kansas

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Rob I.

Gonzaga

O. Roberts

O. Roberts

Syracuse

Syracuse

Ryan W.

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Scott H. #2

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Syracuse

Syracuse

Scott K.

Baylor

Flo. State

Alabama

Oregon

Or. State

Shawn M.

Illinois

Sweet 16

Villanova

Villanova

Villanova

Stefon K.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Alabama

Alabama

Alabama

Steve D.

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Tina H.

Michigan

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Villanova

Tomas L. #1

Baylor

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

O. Roberts

O. Roberts

Tucker D.

Alabama

Syracuse

Alabama

Alabama

Alabama

Tyler B.

Michigan

USC

Or. State

Oregon

Syracuse

Valerie D.

Gonzaga

Sweet 16

Villanova

Villanova

Villanova

Virginia L.

Texas

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Flo. State

Creighton

William G. #2

Illinois

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Sweet 16

Zach V.

Illinois

O. Roberts

O. Roberts

Syracuse

Oregon