Saturday, March 18, 2023

2023 March Madness - at least there are 2 #1 seeds left.

It looks like the curse of the T-shirt is back after a 1-day hiatus.  I don’t know why I’m surprised.  By my own definition, I’m picking the team that has the longest shot at winning that I actually want to win.  Most days, that team is more likely to get crushed than it is to win.  Such was the case today with Maryland.  Alabama avoided the fate of Purdue and Kansas and made it to the Sweet 16.  I’d love to say that Houston and Alabama are on a collision course, but there are soooo many games to go before we get there.

So, no one went 8/8 today.  I haven’t even looked at the actual numbers and I know that’s true.  No one had Princeton in the Sweet 16.  I was looking at the standings, and I think it is a good example of why my pool is better than most.  In most pools, what you would get is essentially just the points, and maybe something that says the maximum number of points they can get.  That would really be misleading right now.  There are 4 people with 37 points sitting in the top 4 spots based only on points. 2 of the 4 are missing both of their championship teams.  1 is missing its champion.  The 4th is only missing one team in the finals.  They are 81st, 162nd, 196th and 196th in net points right now.  It’s entirely possible that all 4 of these brackets have already been mathematically eliminated from 1st place.  You wouldn’t know that based on only the points.  They have done a great job picking the coin flip games, but they’ve missed on the key games like Purdue and Kansas.  That matters way more than the games played on the opening weekend.

I shouldn’t be too surprised at this, but today was tough to predict for some specific places.  As I mentioned, no one had Princeton.  Only 6 people got Arkansas.  Tennessee was kind of a coin flip, but it was a coin flip where a lot more people picked heads and it came up tails.  That hurt people.  As a result, the best anyone did today was go 6/8.  Only 20 people managed to do that.  I feel kind of bad for people like Kristin G. and Michelle L. #3.  They got 6/8, but they lost Kansas as their champion.  That sucks.  They were so good everywhere else.  The average points won today was 8.68, which is pretty low, considering only 3 teams shouldn’t be there based on the seeds.

We have more games tomorrow, so I’m hoping for even more chaos – especially since my Houston squad is safely through to the next round.  I was looking at the games tomorrow, and there are only 3 teams that got there via upset.  Of those 3, 2 of them play each other (FDU vs. FAU).  The other upset is play-in winner Pitt.  Everything else is strictly by the seeds.

Here are the updated standings:

1. Kealoha G.: 37 (-49) - Houston

2. Kristin G.: 37 (-89) - Kansas

3. Brent E. #4: 37 (-107) - Purdue

3. CAAT #1 (Adam O.): 37 (-107) - Purdue

5. Luis B. #4: 36 (-18) - Alabama

5. Michael S.: 36 (-18) - Houston

7. Mason A. #2: 36 (-20) - Gonzaga

8. Eric V. #3: 36 (-66) - Texas

9. April K.: 36 (-110) - Purdue

10. Emily T.: 35 (-19) - Alabama

10. Irene H. #5: 35 (-19) - Marquette

12. Dustin D. #1: 35 (-23) - Houston

12. Jason S.: 35 (-23) - Houston

14. Irene H. #6: 35 (-25) - Houston

15. Irene H. #3: 35 (-27) - Alabama

16. Brent E. #3: 35 (-37) - Alabama

16. Matt O.: 35 (-37) - UCLA

18. Sacrificial Gutless Bracket: 35 (-43) - Alabama

19. Brent S. #2: 35 (-55) - Texas

20. Deanna T.: 35 (-83) - Kansas

21. House Rules (Jacob S.): 34 (-20) - Houston

21. Noah N.: 34 (-20) - Alabama

23. Dianna A.: 34 (-22) - Texas

24. Andrew D. #1: 34 (-24) - Houston

25. Brent E. #1: 34 (-32) - Alabama

26. Chun W. #4: 34 (-34) - Houston

26. Elliot N.: 34 (-34) - Houston

28. Chun W. #3: 34 (-44) - Texas

28. Mindi W.: 34 (-44) - UCLA

28. Snoop Dogg: 34 (-44) - UCLA

31. Brent E. #2: 34 (-54) - Marquette

32. Luis B. #3: 34 (-60) - Alabama

32. Luis B. #5: 34 (-60) - Alabama

32. Luis B. #6: 34 (-60) - Alabama

35. Kylan G.: 34 (-78) - Purdue

36. Quinn1130 (Brett G.): 34 (-80) - Duke

37. Hutch H. #1: 34 (-84) - Kansas

38. Ryan W.: 34 (-86) - Purdue

39. Marblesox: 34 (-92) - Arizona

40. James G.: 34 (-110) - Purdue

41. Jeremy H.: 33 (-21) - Kentucky

41. Mike W.: 33 (-21) - Marquette

43. Eric V. #1: 33 (-29) - Houston

44. Karen C.: 33 (-31) - UCLA

45. Andrew D. #3: 33 (-33) - Alabama

46. Connor W.: 33 (-37) - Alabama

46. Mary Lou H.: 33 (-37) - Houston

48. JB Erickson: 33 (-39) - Gonzaga

49. Melody T.: 33 (-41) - Baylor

49. Schmuidos #1 (Bob & Max): 33 (-41) - Gonzaga

51. Luis B. #1: 33 (-53) - Alabama

51. Matt N.: 33 (-53) - Houston

53. John A.: 33 (-63) - Texas

54. Baily T.: 33 (-77) - Purdue

55. D Row (Dennis R.): 33 (-83) - Purdue

56. Brent S. #1: 33 (-87) - Duke

57. Brad R.: 33 (-89) - Arizona

58. Jaxon S.: 33 (-117) - Kansas

59. Pete J. #5: 32 (-24) - Alabama

60. Pete J. #1: 32 (-26) - Houston

61. Becky H.: 32 (-28) - Marquette

62. Amanda R.: 32 (-32) - Baylor

62. Brandon B.: 32 (-32) - Texas

64. Ally H.: 32 (-34) - Alabama

65. Miela314 (Brett G.): 32 (-36) - Alabama

65. RB Blackburn: 32 (-36) - Indiana

67. Veronica G.: 32 (-40) - Kansas State

68. William M. #1: 32 (-46) - Alabama

69. Jacob A.: 32 (-48) - UCLA

70. Mason A. #4: 32 (-52) - UCLA

71. Damien R. #2: 32 (-56) - Alabama

72. Elizabeth N. #1: 32 (-62) - Houston

72. Max A. #1: 32 (-62) - Houston

74. Barack O.: 32 (-78) - Duke

75. Tom W Bel.: 32 (-82) - Kansas

76. Paul K. #2: 32 (-88) - Arizona

77. Tiggy Tony (Tony N.): 32 (-90) - Duke

78. Chad L. #3: 32 (-96) - Arizona

79. Stefon K.: 32 (-106) - Kansas

80. Hurry Up #1: 31 (-25) - Gonzaga

81. Cool Guy (Wytosick): 31 (-29) - Marquette

82. Irene H. #1: 31 (-31) - Houston

83. Pete J. #6: 31 (-39) - Houston

84. Dylan B.: 31 (-41) - Marquette

85. Jim W.: 31 (-47) - Alabama

85. Josiah T.: 31 (-47) - Houston

87. Chun W. #2: 31 (-53) - Gonzaga

88. Kirt R. #2: 31 (-57) - Houston

89. Nick M.: 31 (-65) - Alabama

89. Scott K. #1: 31 (-65) - Gonzaga

91. Dan D.: 31 (-79) - Purdue

91. Hack a Zach (Dave F.): 31 (-79) - Purdue

93. Bret K. #1: 31 (-85) - Purdue

93. Chris M.: 31 (-85) - Purdue

95. Mike N.: 31 (-91) - Duke

96. Schmuidos #2 (Bob & Max): 31 (-93) - Arizona

97. Greg L.: 31 (-97) - Purdue

98. Michelle L. #3: 31 (-121) - Kansas

99. Craig G.: 31 (-125) - Kansas

100. Brian K.: 30 (-24) - Alabama

100. Chris E.: 30 (-24) - Baylor

100. Howard S. #1: 30 (-24) - Houston

103. Pete J. #3: 30 (-28) - Marquette

104. Dimitris M.: 30 (-30) - Alabama

104. Valerie D.: 30 (-30) - Houston

106. Klei R. #3: 30 (-34) - UCLA

106. Rob I. #1: 30 (-34) - San Diego State

106. Scott H. #1: 30 (-34) - Alabama

109. Cicely K.: 30 (-36) - Alabama

109. Howard S. #2: 30 (-36) - Texas

111. Devils (Brett G.): 30 (-38) - Houston

111. Jay H. #2: 30 (-38) - Texas

111. Pete J. #2: 30 (-38) - Alabama

111. Scott H. #2: 30 (-38) - Houston

111. Stan C.: 30 (-38) - UCLA

116. Chad L. #2: 30 (-40) - Gonzaga

116. Dustin D. #3: 30 (-40) - Houston

116. Tomas L.: 30 (-40) - Houston

119. Max A. #2: 30 (-44) - Houston

120. Derek B.: 30 (-46) - Marquette

121. Luis B. #2: 30 (-48) - Alabama

121. Stephen C.: 30 (-48) - Alabama

123. Vang L. #1: 30 (-60) - Gonzaga

124. Pete J. #4: 30 (-64) - Connecticut

125. Szecho L.: 30 (-68) - UCLA

126. Daniel E.: 30 (-76) - UCLA

127. Ben S. #1: 30 (-84) - Arizona

128. Dan Dz.: 30 (-88) - Kansas

129. CAAT #2 (Adam O.): 30 (-92) - Arizona

130. Andy Katz: 30 (-96) - Purdue

131. Elizabeth N. #3: 30 (-98) - Kansas

132. William M. #2: 30 (-100) - Arizona

133. Alyssa B.: 30 (-102) - Purdue

133. Jared B.: 30 (-102) - Kansas

133. Steve D. #1: 30 (-102) - Purdue

136. Irene H. #2: 30 (-106) - Arizona

137. Eric S. #2: 30 (-108) - Arizona

138. Chad L. #4: 30 (-112) - Purdue

138. Irene H. #4: 30 (-112) - Purdue

140. Andrew D. #2: 29 (-25) - Houston

140. Brett W.: 29 (-25) - Gonzaga

142. Tyler C.: 29 (-35) - Alabama

143. Daisy N. #5: 29 (-41) - Houston

143. Samer C.: 29 (-41) - Alabama

143. Vang L. #2: 29 (-41) - Gonzaga

146. Nick I.: 29 (-45) - UCLA

147. Adam E.: 29 (-61) - Texas

147. Harrell R. #2: 29 (-61) - Connecticut

147. SD Azteco (Dan McK.): 29 (-61) - Gonzaga

150. CAAT #3 (Adam O.): 29 (-63) - Gonzaga

150. Hutch H. #2: 29 (-63) - Houston

152. Jackson I.: 29 (-65) - UCLA

152. Kirt R. #1: 29 (-65) - Houston

154. Kyler T.: 29 (-79) - Houston

155. Mason A. #1: 29 (-83) - Arizona

156. Dave A.: 29 (-85) - Purdue

156. Nick D.: 29 (-85) - Purdue

158. Rob I. #2: 29 (-93) - Arizona

159. Chad L. #1: 29 (-95) - Duke

160. Daisy N. #4: 29 (-99) - Purdue

161. Chun W. #1: 29 (-101) - Kansas

162. Tim D. #2: 29 (-107) - Purdue

163. Chris T.: 29 (-109) - Arizona

164. William M. #3: 29 (-115) - Kansas

165. Eric V. #2: 28 (-30) - Alabama

166. Josh C.: 28 (-34) - UCLA

167. Chris L. #4: 28 (-36) - Connecticut

167. Eric S. #1: 28 (-36) - Houston

167. Harrell R. #3: 28 (-36) - UCLA

167. Scott K. #2: 28 (-36) - Houston

171. Chris L. #1: 28 (-38) - Alabama

171. Chris L. #2: 28 (-38) - Houston

173. Marshmallow (Nikolajs B.): 28 (-46) - UCLA

174. Bryce S.: 28 (-56) - Texas

175. Dustin B.: 28 (-60) - Gonzaga

176. Chris L. #3: 28 (-64) - Alabama

177. Bret K. #2: 28 (-68) - Texas

178. Carrie F.: 28 (-70) - UCLA

179. James P.: 28 (-100) - Arizona

180. Dustin D. #2: 28 (-114) - Kansas

181. Michelle L. #1: 27 (-29) - Alabama

182. Dawn G.: 27 (-31) - Gonzaga

183. Klei R. #1: 27 (-35) - Houston

184. Ben S. #2: 27 (-41) - UCLA

184. Charlotte N.: 27 (-41) - Connecticut

186. Matt H.: 27 (-49) - Houston

187. Michelle L. #2: 27 (-51) - Houston

188. CAAT #4 (Adam O.): 27 (-65) - Connecticut

188. Paul K. #1: 27 (-65) - UCLA

190. Klei R. #4: 27 (-83) - Purdue

191. Derek H.: 27 (-85) - Duke

192. Upset City (Brett G.): 27 (-95) - Arizona

193. Jon F.: 27 (-97) - Purdue

194. Bret K. #3: 27 (-99) - Arizona

195. Daisy N. #1: 27 (-111) - Kansas

196. Kristina H.: 27 (-115) - Kansas

197. Niren D.: 26 (-32) - Texas

198. Harrell R. #1: 26 (-40) - Texas

199. Tim D. #1: 26 (-42) - Alabama

200. Shanky G.: 26 (-56) - Houston

201. TJ Val.: 26 (-58) - Houston

202. Hero R.: 26 (-62) - Houston

203. Elizabeth N. #2: 26 (-68) - Alabama

204. Jonny Y.: 26 (-70) - UCLA

205. Steve D. #2: 26 (-80) - UCLA

206. Chase L.: 26 (-82) - UCLA

207. Michelle L. #4: 26 (-86) - Purdue

208. Damien R. #1: 26 (-98) - Arizona

209. Sally R.: 26 (-102) - Arizona

210. Scarlett H.: 26 (-104) - Kansas

211. Mustard (Nikolajs B.): 25 (-39) - San Diego State

212. Hurry Up #2: 25 (-41) - Houston

213. Daisy N. #2: 25 (-45) - Alabama

214. Jay H. #1: 25 (-129) - Kansas

215. Damien R. #3: 24 (-40) - Alabama

215. W Lafayette Blues (Dave F.): 24 (-40) - Texas

217. Daisy N. #3: 24 (-62) - Gonzaga

218. Melissa W.: 24 (-74) - Gonzaga

219. Michelle L. #5: 24 (-76) - Marquette

220. Klei R. #2: 24 (-86) - Gonzaga

221. Chrissy S.: 24 (-88) - UCLA

222. Shawn D.: 24 (-138) - Purdue

223. Eric G.: 23 (-43) - Gonzaga

224. Tim N.: 23 (-45) - Marquette

225. Damien R. #4: 23 (-95) - Alabama

226. Paul K. #3: 22 (-46) - Houston

227. Mark B.: 22 (-124) - Kansas

228. Adalyn H.: 22 (-140) - Purdue

229. Aaron E.: 21 (-77) - Creighton

230. Brandon H.: 20 (-80) - UCLA

231. Brandie H.: 20 (-130) - Duke

232. Mason A. #3: 20 (-132) - Kansas

233. Colonel Sander (Eric S. #3): 19 (-121) - Purdue

…and the net points standings:

1. Luis B. #4 (18)

1. Michael S. (18)

3. Mason A. #2 (16)

3. Emily T. (16)

3. Irene H. #5 (16)

6. House Rules (Jacob S.) (14)

6. Noah N. (14)

8. Dustin D. #1 (12)

8. Jason S. (12)

8. Dianna A. (12)

8. Jeremy H. (12)

8. Mike W. (12)

13. Irene H. #6 (10)

13. Andrew D. #1 (10)

15. Irene H. #3 (8)

15. Pete J. #5 (8)

17. Pete J. #1 (6)

17. Hurry Up #1 (6)

17. Brian K. (6)

17. Chris E. (6)

17. Howard S. #1 (6)

22. Eric V. #1 (4)

22. Becky H. (4)

22. Andrew D. #2 (4)

22. Brett W. (4)

26. Brent E. #1 (2)

26. Karen C. (2)

26. Cool Guy (Wytosick) (2)

26. Pete J. #3 (2)

30. Chun W. #4 (0)

30. Elliot N. (0)

30. Andrew D. #3 (0)

30. Amanda R. (0)

30. Brandon B. (0)

30. Irene H. #1 (0)

30. Dimitris M. (0)

30. Valerie D. (0)

38. Brent E. #3 (-2)

38. Matt O. (-2)

38. Ally H. (-2)

38. Eric V. #2 (-2)

38. Michelle L. #1 (-2)

43. Connor W. (-4)

43. Mary Lou H. (-4)

43. Miela314 (Brett G.) (-4)

43. RB Blackburn (-4)

43. Klei R. #3 (-4)

43. Rob I. #1 (-4)

43. Scott H. #1 (-4)

43. Dawn G. (-4)

51. JB Erickson (-6)

51. Cicely K. (-6)

51. Howard S. #2 (-6)

51. Tyler C. (-6)

51. Josh C. (-6)

51. Niren D. (-6)

57. Sacrificial Gutless Bracket (-8)

57. Melody T. (-8)

57. Schmuidos #1 (Bob & Max) (-8)

57. Veronica G. (-8)

57. Pete J. #6 (-8)

57. Devils (Brett G.) (-8)

57. Jay H. #2 (-8)

57. Pete J. #2 (-8)

57. Scott H. #2 (-8)

57. Stan C. (-8)

57. Chris L. #4 (-8)

57. Eric S. #1 (-8)

57. Harrell R. #3 (-8)

57. Scott K. #2 (-8)

57. Klei R. #1 (-8)

72. Chun W. #3 (-10)

72. Mindi W. (-10)

72. Snoop Dogg (-10)

72. Dylan B. (-10)

72. Chad L. #2 (-10)

72. Dustin D. #3 (-10)

72. Tomas L. (-10)

72. Chris L. #1 (-10)

72. Chris L. #2 (-10)

81. Kealoha G. (-12)

81. Daisy N. #5 (-12)

81. Samer C. (-12)

81. Vang L. #2 (-12)

85. William M. #1 (-14)

85. Max A. #2 (-14)

85. Ben S. #2 (-14)

85. Charlotte N. (-14)

85. Harrell R. #1 (-14)

85. Mustard (Nikolajs B.) (-14)

91. Jacob A. (-16)

91. Jim W. (-16)

91. Josiah T. (-16)

91. Derek B. (-16)

91. Nick I. (-16)

91. Tim D. #1 (-16)

91. Hurry Up #2 (-16)

91. Damien R. #3 (-16)

91. W Lafayette Blues (Dave F.) (-16)

100. Luis B. #2 (-18)

100. Stephen C. (-18)

100. Marshmallow (Nikolajs B.) (-18)

103. Brent S. #2 (-20)

103. Brent E. #2 (-20)

103. Luis B. #1 (-20)

103. Matt N. (-20)

103. Mason A. #4 (-20)

103. Daisy N. #2 (-20)

103. Eric G. (-20)

110. Chun W. #2 (-22)

110. Matt H. (-22)

110. Tim N. (-22)

113. Damien R. #2 (-24)

113. Michelle L. #2 (-24)

113. Paul K. #3 (-24)

116. Luis B. #3 (-26)

116. Luis B. #5 (-26)

116. Luis B. #6 (-26)

116. Kirt R. #2 (-26)

120. Bryce S. (-28)

121. Eric V. #3 (-30)

121. John A. (-30)

121. Elizabeth N. #1 (-30)

121. Max A. #1 (-30)

121. Vang L. #1 (-30)

121. Shanky G. (-30)

127. Adam E. (-32)

127. Harrell R. #2 (-32)

127. SD Azteco (Dan McK.) (-32)

127. Dustin B. (-32)

127. TJ Val. (-32)

132. Nick M. (-34)

132. Scott K. #1 (-34)

132. Pete J. #4 (-34)

132. CAAT #3 (Adam O.) (-34)

132. Hutch H. #2 (-34)

137. Jackson I. (-36)

137. Kirt R. #1 (-36)

137. Chris L. #3 (-36)

137. Hero R. (-36)

141. Szecho L. (-38)

141. CAAT #4 (Adam O.) (-38)

141. Paul K. #1 (-38)

141. Daisy N. #3 (-38)

145. Bret K. #2 (-40)

146. Carrie F. (-42)

146. Elizabeth N. #2 (-42)

148. Kylan G. (-44)

148. Baily T. (-44)

148. Jonny Y. (-44)

151. Quinn1130 (Brett G.) (-46)

151. Barack O. (-46)

151. Daniel E. (-46)

154. Deanna T. (-48)

154. Dan D. (-48)

154. Hack a Zach (Dave F.) (-48)

157. Hutch H. #1 (-50)

157. D Row (Dennis R.) (-50)

157. Tom W Bel. (-50)

157. Kyler T. (-50)

157. Melissa W. (-50)

162. Kristin G. (-52)

162. Ryan W. (-52)

162. Michelle L. #5 (-52)

165. Brent S. #1 (-54)

165. Bret K. #1 (-54)

165. Chris M. (-54)

165. Ben S. #1 (-54)

165. Mason A. #1 (-54)

165. Steve D. #2 (-54)

171. Brad R. (-56)

171. Paul K. #2 (-56)

171. Dave A. (-56)

171. Nick D. (-56)

171. Klei R. #4 (-56)

171. Chase L. (-56)

171. Aaron E. (-56)

178. Marblesox (-58)

178. Tiggy Tony (Tony N.) (-58)

178. Dan Dz. (-58)

178. Derek H. (-58)

182. Mike N. (-60)

182. Michelle L. #4 (-60)

182. Brandon H. (-60)

185. Schmuidos #2 (Bob & Max) (-62)

185. CAAT #2 (Adam O.) (-62)

185. Klei R. #2 (-62)

188. Chad L. #3 (-64)

188. Rob I. #2 (-64)

188. Chrissy S. (-64)

191. Greg L. (-66)

191. Andy Katz (-66)

191. Chad L. #1 (-66)

194. Elizabeth N. #3 (-68)

194. Upset City (Brett G.) (-68)

196. Brent E. #4 (-70)

196. CAAT #1 (Adam O.) (-70)

196. William M. #2 (-70)

196. Daisy N. #4 (-70)

196. Jon F. (-70)

201. Alyssa B. (-72)

201. Jared B. (-72)

201. Steve D. #1 (-72)

201. Chun W. #1 (-72)

201. James P. (-72)

201. Bret K. #3 (-72)

201. Damien R. #1 (-72)

201. Damien R. #4 (-72)

209. April K. (-74)

209. Stefon K. (-74)

211. James G. (-76)

211. Irene H. #2 (-76)

211. Sally R. (-76)

214. Eric S. #2 (-78)

214. Tim D. #2 (-78)

214. Scarlett H. (-78)

217. Chris T. (-80)

218. Chad L. #4 (-82)

218. Irene H. #4 (-82)

220. Jaxon S. (-84)

220. Daisy N. #1 (-84)

222. William M. #3 (-86)

222. Dustin D. #2 (-86)

224. Kristina H. (-88)

225. Michelle L. #3 (-90)

226. Craig G. (-94)

227. Mark B. (-102)

227. Colonel Sander (Eric S. #3) (-102)

229. Jay H. #1 (-104)

230. Brandie H. (-110)

231. Mason A. #3 (-112)

232. Shawn D. (-114)

233. Adalyn H. (-118)

Looking at the cleanest brackets from here on, the best anyone has is still missing another Sweet 16 team and at least one Great 8 team.  There are 13 teams like this.

Tomorrow looks like it’s going to be a ton of close games.  I guess that’s what you get when it’s mostly by the seeds.  7/8 games have point spreads of less than 5 points.  The one outlier is FAU / FDU.  I’ll preview that one tomorrow.

Tomorrow they are staggering the games the same way they did today.  They are starting everyone with Pitt / Xavier, followed by Kansas State / Kentucky.  Then they go off every hour after that.  That seems to work.  I get to watch virtually all of the second half of every game, which is nice.

Game 41

Xavier / Pitt

Vegas Line: Xavier -4.5

Picks for Xavier: 147

Picks for Pitt: 19

Picks for Other: 66

Xavier can pound sand.  They should not be here.  This should be a Pitt / Kennesaw State game.  Unfortunately, the refs decided that two people grabbing a rebounder by the arms is not a foul anymore.  Seriously, if there is any karmic justice in the world, Pitt will cruise to the easiest of all possible victories.  That makes this game an easy choice for the t-shirt curse.  I mean, FDU is a bigger long shot, but I’ve already worn that one.  Plus, I don’t care if they win or not at this point.  They’ve done what I wanted them to do.  Anything else is gravy for them.  I like this Pitt team, and Xavier has a clinical case of dysphagia when it comes to the post season.  I hope they get the help they need – next season.

Good Luck!!!!!

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