After 8/16 Seeet 16 teams

Notre Dame squeaked out an overtime victory over Butler to avoid the upset bug, but the damage was done for the day as 2 lower seeded teams won out of 8.  That seems like a good number.  25% upsets is pretty good.  I don't know what it is historically.  That would be interesting knowledge to look up.  Maybe that's a project for another day.  I think last year it was pretty high.

As I mentioned earlier, there were no perfect brackets on the day.  There was only one person who even did as good as 7/8.  Brandon H. was the only person to accomplish this achievement, moving from the start of the day from 165th to 27th at the end of the day, a move up of 138 places.  The story gets even better for Brandon H. as he is also currently in 21st in net points.

The average amount of points won today was 8.40.  That's largely because of the lack of points that people got because of Baylor, Iowa State and Villanova.  I suspect that tomorrow we will see a larger number of points be garnered by everyone.  That is, unless we can eclipse the 25% mark in upsets.  There's hope....  I'd like to see as many as possible.  If you can't tell, I love the upsets.  If you are wondering why I have such zeal for these things, it's because I can't stand picking by the seeds.  I think that is cowardly and anyone that does it should really question their reasoning for entering a pool in the first place.  I like to see pick upsets and reward them for getting them right.  It's great for bragging rights and it makes the pool more interesting.  Any time all 4 1 seeds make the Final 4 is one of the worst tournaments I can imagine.

So, the rest of the distribution of the wins today looks like this:

6/8: 11 brackets

5/8: 62 brackets

4/8: 94 brackets

3/8: 30 brackets

2/8: 8 brackets.

Surprisingly, Jeff W. was the biggest dropper of the day.  He started the day in 27th, but dropped 122 spots after going 2/8.  All is not lost even with that performance for Jeff W. as his ranking in net points is still a decent 106th.  He still has his Final 4 intact, so despite a terrible day, there is still hope.

Looking ahead, there are no less than 10 brackets that can still get all remaining points.  That means that they haven't lost any of the remaining Sweet 16 teams, or any other teams in the future.  That's an enviable position to be in.  While none of them even crack the top 20 in total points currently, they make up 8 of the top 20 in net points.  The best of them currently is Todd K. #2.  He is in 22nd in total points, but 2nd in net points.

So I've talked enough about it.  Here are the total points rankings:

1. Steve H. #1: 39 (-73)

2. Bret K. #1: 38 (-18)

3. Kolton D.: 38 (-74)

4. Jonathan M. #1: 37 (-13)

5. James G. #3: 37 (-17)

6. Marissa W. #1: 37 (-27)

7. Szecho L.: 36 (-14)

8. Chun W. #3: 36 (-16)

8. Ken P.: 36 (-16)

8. Larry G. #2: 36 (-16)

11. Jonathan M. #2: 36 (-18)

12. Rich F. #1: 36 (-20)

12. Rich F. #2: 36 (-20)

14. Bhav R. #2: 36 (-24)

15. Daisy N. #1: 36 (-28)

16. Ben S. #1: 36 (-30)

17. Brent E. #4: 36 (-40)

17. Harrell R. #1: 36 (-40)

17. Larry G. #1: 36 (-40)

20. Ben J. #4: 36 (-44)

20. Chris La. #3: 36 (-44)

22. Todd K. #2: 35 (-13)

23. Daisy N. #4: 35 (-17)

23. Kai Q.: 35 (-17)

23. Irene H. #2: 35 (-17)

23. Jim K.: 35 (-17)

27. Brandon H.: 35 (-19)

28. John M. #1: 35 (-21)

28. Ron B.: 35 (-21)

28. Mike W.: 35 (-21)

28. Dustin B.: 35 (-21)

32. Kye G. #1: 35 (-25)

32. Amber W.: 35 (-25)

34. Dylan B.: 35 (-37)

35. Jessica B.: 35 (-49)

36. Bret K. #2: 35 (-53)

36. Chun W. #2: 35 (-53)

38. Brent E. #2: 35 (-73)

39. Bhav R. #1: 34 (-14)

39. James G. #1: 34 (-14)

39. Jack Q. #3: 34 (-14)

42. Larry G. #4: 34 (-18)

42. Chad L. #3: 34 (-18)

42. Brent S. #2: 34 (-18)

42. Todd K. #3: 34 (-18)

42. Steve H. #2: 34 (-18)

47. Scottt #1: 34 (-20)

47. Scottt #2: 34 (-20)

49. Peter J. #6: 34 (-22)

50. Gigi Q.: 34 (-26)

50. Matt N.: 34 (-26)

52. Missy W. #1: 34 (-30)

52. Jim D. #2: 34 (-30)

54. Chun W. #1: 34 (-34)

55. Hutch H. #2: 34 (-46)

56. Shane B.: 34 (-48)

57. Peter J. #2: 34 (-54)

58. Damian M. #2: 34 (-78)

59. Jay H. #3: 33 (-15)

59. Dan D. #1: 33 (-15)

59. Bret K. #3: 33 (-15)

59. Todd K. #1: 33 (-15)

63. Ben J. #2: 33 (-17)

64. Chad L. #2: 33 (-19)

64. Steve K. #1: 33 (-19)

64. Angie B.: 33 (-19)

67. Jim W.: 33 (-21)

67. Carl B.: 33 (-21)

67. Eric V. #3: 33 (-21)

70. Dan S.: 33 (-23)

70. Jim D. #1: 33 (-23)

70. Scott H. #1: 33 (-23)

70. John M. #2: 33 (-23)

74. Michelle L. #3: 33 (-25)

75. Kirt R. #1: 33 (-27)

75. Alyssa B.: 33 (-27)

75. Chun W. #4: 33 (-27)

78. Dave M.: 33 (-29)

79. Ben J. #1: 33 (-33)

79. James R.: 33 (-33)

79. Jason G.: 33 (-33)

82. Mason A. #1: 33 (-43)

83. Brandon B.: 33 (-47)

83. John E.: 33 (-47)

85. Mindi W.: 33 (-57)

86. Brad E.: 33 (-81)

87. William G. #4: 33 (-89)

88. Jack Q. #4: 32 (-16)

88. Mark N. #2: 32 (-16)

90. Steve D.: 32 (-18)

90. Chris La. #2: 32 (-18)

92. James G. #2: 32 (-20)

92. April K.: 32 (-20)

92. Harrell R. #2: 32 (-20)

92. Ally H.: 32 (-20)

92. Eric V. #1: 32 (-20)

97. Brent E. #1: 32 (-22)

97. Ben S. #2: 32 (-22)

97. Brent E. #3: 32 (-22)

100. Dennis R. #1: 32 (-24)

101. Damian M. #3: 32 (-26)

102. Daisy N. #2: 32 (-28)

102. Daisy N. #3: 32 (-28)

102. Kye G. #2: 32 (-28)

102. Christy K. #1: 32 (-28)

102. Brent S. #3: 32 (-28)

102. Joe R.: 32 (-28)

108. Sue L.: 32 (-30)

109. Hutch H. #1: 32 (-32)

110. Jay K.: 32 (-34)

111. Brian G. #1: 32 (-46)

112. Julie S.: 32 (-48)

113. Paul W.: 32 (-50)

114. Gary W.: 32 (-56)

114. Mike G.: 32 (-56)

116. Kansas C.: 32 (-76)

117. Larry G. #3: 32 (-80)

118. Mark N. #1: 31 (-21)

118. Todd K. #4: 31 (-21)

118. Brett W.: 31 (-21)

118. Alex Q.: 31 (-21)

122. Michelle L. #2: 31 (-23)

123. Joseph H.: 31 (-25)

123. Irene H. #1: 31 (-25)

123. Chris Lu. #1: 31 (-25)

126. Andrew D. #2: 31 (-27)

127. Jack Q. #2: 31 (-29)

128. Tomas L. #2: 31 (-33)

129. Damien R. #2: 31 (-35)

130. Tomas L. #1: 31 (-41)

131. Scott H. #2: 31 (-45)

131. Jonathan M. #3: 31 (-45)

131. Klei R. #1: 31 (-45)

134. Mike S. #2: 31 (-49)

135. Chad L. #1: 31 (-59)

136. Kirt R. #2: 31 (-77)

136. Marissa W. #2: 31 (-77)

138. Veronica A.: 30 (-22)

138. Ryan W.: 30 (-22)

138. Michelle R. #1: 30 (-22)

138. Daryl J.: 30 (-22)

138. Dennis R. #2: 30 (-22)

138. Bobby H.: 30 (-22)

138. Mike S. #1: 30 (-22)

145. Steve K. #2: 30 (-26)

145. Chris Lu. #2: 30 (-26)

145. Damian M. #1: 30 (-26)

145. Eric V. #2: 30 (-26)

149. Jeff W.: 30 (-28)

149. Becky H.: 30 (-28)

151. Brent S. #1: 30 (-30)

151. Jack Q. #1: 30 (-30)

153. Daisy N. #5: 30 (-34)

154. Taima B #2: 30 (-36)

155. Chris L. #1: 30 (-50)

156. Andrew D. #1: 30 (-58)

157. Taima B. #1: 30 (-60)

158. Dan D. #2: 30 (-62)

159. Brad R.: 29 (-23)

159. Howard S. #2: 29 (-23)

161. Seth D.: 29 (-25)

162. Peter J. #3: 29 (-27)

163. Virginia L. #1: 29 (-31)

164. Damien R. #1: 29 (-33)

165. Hutch H. #3: 29 (-39)

165. Michelle L. #1: 29 (-39)

167. Marissa W. #3: 29 (-41)

167. Chris La. #4: 29 (-41)

169. Luis B. #1: 29 (-47)

170. Peter J. #1: 29 (-65)

171. Virginia L. #2: 29 (-79)

172. Scott K. #2: 29 (-83)

173. Michelle R. #2: 29 (-107)

174. Jax Q.: 28 (-24)

175. Justin L.: 28 (-26)

176. Jenny E.: 28 (-28)

176. Adam E.: 28 (-28)

176. Joe K. #2: 28 (-28)

176. Ray R.: 28 (-28)

180. John B.: 28 (-30)

181. Peter J. #4: 28 (-32)

182. Luis B. #2: 28 (-34)

182. Luis B. #3: 28 (-34)

184. Missy W. #2: 28 (-36)

185. Ben J. #3: 28 (-42)

186. William G. #1: 28 (-62)

187. Jay H. #1: 28 (-80)

188. John M. #3: 28 (-86)

189. Joe K. #1: 27 (-33)

190. Joe K. #3: 27 (-35)

191. Marc R.: 27 (-39)

192. William G. #2: 27 (-49)

193. Michelle L. #4: 27 (-53)

194. Peter J. #5: 27 (-55)

195. Irene H. #3: 27 (-85)

196. Howard S. #1: 27 (-95)

197. Mason A. #2: 26 (-32)

198. Roth W.: 26 (-34)

199. William G. #3: 26 (-52)

200. Scott K. #1: 25 (-57)

201. Brian G. #2: 24 (-56)

202. Jonathan O.: 24 (-68)

203. Jay H. #2: 24 (-70)

204. Christy K. #2: 23 (-37)

205. Tim N.: 23 (-61)

206. Sally R.: 22 (-56)

Notice how Steve H. #1 is currently in 1st in total points.  He also has Villanova winning it all, so he is currently 184th in net points, and quite possibly done in this tournament.  Same goes for current number 3, Kolton D.  He has a lot of points, but with Georgetown as champion, he is currently 187th in net points.  That's quite a difference.  It's almost like some kind of fatal flaw.  They picked so good, except for that one team that is torpedoing the entire bracket.  For some perspective, my Mom has been buried at the bottom of the standings, and she is currently tied with Steve H. #1 in net points, and ahead of Kolton D.

So here's the net point rankings:

1. Jonathan M. #1 (24)

2. Szecho L. (22)

2. Todd K. #2 (22)

4. Bret K. #1 (20)

4. James G. #3 (20)

4. Chun W. #3 (20)

4. Ken P. (20)

4. Larry G. #2 (20)

4. Bhav R. #1 (20)

4. James G. #1 (20)

4. Jack Q. #3 (20)

12. Jonathan M. #2 (18)

12. Daisy N. #4 (18)

12. Kai Q. (18)

12. Irene H. #2 (18)

12. Jim K. (18)

12. Jay H. #3 (18)

12. Dan D. #1 (18)

12. Bret K. #3 (18)

12. Todd K. #1 (18)

21. Rich F. #1 (16)

21. Rich F. #2 (16)

21. Brandon H. (16)

21. Larry G. #4 (16)

21. Chad L. #3 (16)

21. Brent S. #2 (16)

21. Todd K. #3 (16)

21. Steve H. #2 (16)

21. Ben J. #2 (16)

21. Jack Q. #4 (16)

21. Mark N. #2 (16)

32. John M. #1 (14)

32. Ron B. (14)

32. Mike W. (14)

32. Dustin B. (14)

32. Scottt #1 (14)

32. Scottt #2 (14)

32. Chad L. #2 (14)

32. Steve K. #1 (14)

32. Angie B. (14)

32. Steve D. (14)

32. Chris La. #2 (14)

43. Bhav R. #2 (12)

43. Peter J. #6 (12)

43. Jim W. (12)

43. Carl B. (12)

43. Eric V. #3 (12)

43. James G. #2 (12)

43. April K. (12)

43. Harrell R. #2 (12)

43. Ally H. (12)

43. Eric V. #1 (12)

53. Marissa W. #1 (10)

53. Kye G. #1 (10)

53. Amber W. (10)

53. Dan S. (10)

53. Jim D. #1 (10)

53. Scott H. #1 (10)

53. John M. #2 (10)

53. Brent E. #1 (10)

53. Ben S. #2 (10)

53. Brent E. #3 (10)

53. Mark N. #1 (10)

53. Todd K. #4 (10)

53. Brett W. (10)

53. Alex Q. (10)

67. Daisy N. #1 (8)

67. Gigi Q. (8)

67. Matt N. (8)

67. Michelle L. #3 (8)

67. Dennis R. #1 (8)

67. Michelle L. #2 (8)

67. Veronica A. (8)

67. Ryan W. (8)

67. Michelle R. #1 (8)

67. Daryl J. (8)

67. Dennis R. #2 (8)

67. Bobby H. (8)

67. Mike S. #1 (8)

80. Ben S. #1 (6)

80. Kirt R. #1 (6)

80. Alyssa B. (6)

80. Chun W. #4 (6)

80. Damian M. #3 (6)

80. Joseph H. (6)

80. Irene H. #1 (6)

80. Chris Lu. #1 (6)

80. Brad R. (6)

80. Howard S. #2 (6)

90. Missy W. #1 (4)

90. Jim D. #2 (4)

90. Dave M. (4)

90. Daisy N. #2 (4)

90. Daisy N. #3 (4)

90. Kye G. #2 (4)

90. Christy K. #1 (4)

90. Brent S. #3 (4)

90. Joe R. (4)

90. Andrew D. #2 (4)

90. Steve K. #2 (4)

90. Chris Lu. #2 (4)

90. Damian M. #1 (4)

90. Eric V. #2 (4)

90. Seth D. (4)

90. Jax Q. (4)

106. Sue L. (2)

106. Jack Q. #2 (2)

106. Jeff W. (2)

106. Becky H. (2)

106. Peter J. #3 (2)

106. Justin L. (2)

112. Chun W. #1 (0)

112. Ben J. #1 (0)

112. James R. (0)

112. Jason G. (0)

112. Hutch H. #1 (0)

112. Brent S. #1 (0)

112. Jack Q. #1 (0)

112. Jenny E. (0)

112. Adam E. (0)

112. Joe K. #2 (0)

112. Ray R. (0)

123. Dylan B. (-2)

123. Jay K. (-2)

123. Tomas L. #2 (-2)

123. Virginia L. #1 (-2)

123. John B. (-2)

128. Brent E. #4 (-4)

128. Harrell R. #1 (-4)

128. Larry G. #1 (-4)

128. Damien R. #2 (-4)

128. Daisy N. #5 (-4)

128. Damien R. #1 (-4)

128. Peter J. #4 (-4)

135. Taima B #2 (-6)

135. Luis B. #2 (-6)

135. Luis B. #3 (-6)

135. Joe K. #1 (-6)

135. Mason A. #2 (-6)

140. Ben J. #4 (-8)

140. Chris La. #3 (-8)

140. Missy W. #2 (-8)

140. Joe K. #3 (-8)

140. Roth W. (-8)

145. Mason A. #1 (-10)

145. Tomas L. #1 (-10)

145. Hutch H. #3 (-10)

145. Michelle L. #1 (-10)

149. Hutch H. #2 (-12)

149. Marissa W. #3 (-12)

149. Chris La. #4 (-12)

149. Marc R. (-12)

153. Jessica B. (-14)

153. Shane B. (-14)

153. Brandon B. (-14)

153. John E. (-14)

153. Brian G. #1 (-14)

153. Scott H. #2 (-14)

153. Jonathan M. #3 (-14)

153. Klei R. #1 (-14)

153. Ben J. #3 (-14)

153. Christy K. #2 (-14)

163. Julie S. (-16)

164. Bret K. #2 (-18)

164. Chun W. #2 (-18)

164. Paul W. (-18)

164. Mike S. #2 (-18)

164. Luis B. #1 (-18)

169. Peter J. #2 (-20)

169. Chris L. #1 (-20)

171. William G. #2 (-22)

172. Mindi W. (-24)

172. Gary W. (-24)

172. Mike G. (-24)

175. Michelle L. #4 (-26)

175. William G. #3 (-26)

177. Chad L. #1 (-28)

177. Andrew D. #1 (-28)

177. Peter J. #5 (-28)

180. Taima B. #1 (-30)

181. Dan D. #2 (-32)

181. Scott K. #1 (-32)

181. Brian G. #2 (-32)

184. Steve H. #1 (-34)

184. William G. #1 (-34)

184. Sally R. (-34)

187. Kolton D. (-36)

187. Peter J. #1 (-36)

189. Brent E. #2 (-38)

189. Tim N. (-38)

191. Damian M. #2 (-44)

191. Kansas C. (-44)

191. Jonathan O. (-44)

194. Kirt R. #2 (-46)

194. Marissa W. #2 (-46)

194. Jay H. #2 (-46)

197. Brad E. (-48)

197. Larry G. #3 (-48)

199. Virginia L. #2 (-50)

200. Jay H. #1 (-52)

201. Scott K. #2 (-54)

202. William G. #4 (-56)

203. John M. #3 (-58)

203. Irene H. #3 (-58)

205. Howard S. #1 (-68)

206. Michelle R. #2 (-78)

Obviously, you would like to be at the top of both lists, but this is really the one that is more likely to be an indicator of how healthy your bracket is.

I liked the format today.  I felt I had time to do things today.  I got a workout in.  I watched all the ends of all the games and got chance to update things between games.  It was nice.  I think tomorrow is the same.  The main difference is that at the end of the games tomorrow, I should be able to determine who is mathematically eliminated from at least 1st place.  That's always an interesting time.

So good luck to everyone....  At least 2 upsets tomorrow.  You can do it, basketball gods.....